Consumers reflect the private hospital asks an exorbitant price The hospital calls " Do not dislike expensiveness "

Consumers reflect the private hospital asks an exorbitant price The hospital calls " Do not dislike expensiveness "
Consumers reflect the private hospital asks an exorbitant price The hospital calls " Do not dislike expensiveness "
Introduction: Diagnose the illness, use up 10,000 more than two day in private hospital, to cost several thousand to check odd one hundred, the high charge frightens consumers away, the hospital responds: Do not dislike expensiveness to look. The price was iced fire double days why public hospital and private hospital seek medical advice? " 315 of everyday " pays close attention in this issue: The high price hospital is frightened and counted. According to economic sound " 315 of everyday ", a lot of disease patients feel, some hospitals are difficult, difficult to see the doctor to register, the expenses for medicine are expensive, treat the fee more expensive, the public hospital is not cheap, the private hospital is more expensive. Consumer yes: The same item check ordinary hospital charge 500 private hospitals charge 3,000 open and upright Mr.: The private hospital charges very high, the medical fee is not high, it is very high to treat the fee. Reporter: The medical fee is not high, treat Figo, what supreme people's court? How were the expenses for medicine and treating fee that it gives to you opened? Open and upright gentleman: The expenses for medicine are basically one or two hundred yuan, treat about three four a thousand of fee, it is so fairly low. Reporter: Three or four thousand fairly low ones? Open and upright gentleman: Yes, treating the fee is basically more than 4,000. Reporter: What disease do you cure? Why is so expensive? Open and upright gentleman: Prostatitis. I have gone to Peking Union Medical College Hospital to check, the doctor says without having big problem, it is prostatitis. But the private hospital gives all infertile, sexual dysfunction to me to one suit of upper covers, as soon as I have only managed for two days there, I spent more than about 10,000 yuan. I go another one check in the center and hospital near Guang'anmen, check respectively subsequently, find fecundity and every index are out of question. Reporter: How could you choose that hospital and see the doctor originally? Open and upright gentleman: Because I understand BJ Hospital no, look over, arrive on the net, everybody appraise to the hospital and public praise very kind. After I go to the hospital, feel very regular to enter the door, the doctor let me test in an all-round way subsequently, diagnose the fee of 3,000 yuan. Reporter: Is it the extremely ordinary checking? That kind of the training and check ordinarily, right? Open and upright gentleman: Diagnose that does Ultrasonography B, the seminal fluid is tested, still draw blood. Reporter: More than 3,000 for these three kinds of flowers? Open and upright gentleman: Yes, more than 3,000. But I do not go the hospital check, can spend Forth Five-Year Plan Period one hundred at most. I feel large hospital and private hospital of Beijing have charged disparity is too large. Private hospital ordinary people can not accept, the money spent has already gone beyond the budget. Beijing Tongji University hospital is that the open and upright gentleman of consumers went to see the doctor to this hospital, it is a private male section hospital. According to website of this hospital, it is a section hospital of man of the largest scale of Beijing, the hospital is still appraised as the national most popular andrology hospital, patient's most credible andrology hospital continuously, holding a consultation in the fixed medical organization in name of Chinese andrology, foreign friends see the fixed medical organization of the andrology, the national andrology's new technology popularizes and applies the base, the national biological engineering men's health gene measures the clinical base, capital help the disabled unit, ambassador of love, wait a moment for multiple honorary titles. Most private hospitals will be a little more expensive than the public hospital, but if patient's economic strength is not enough or the apparatus not using too high technology treat, then can the hospital think about the patient, change a little cheaper medicine or apparatus? We consult the consulting telephones of the hospital of Tongji University in the capacity of patient, their answer makes people startled. Trade company yes: If think the price expensive, can't choose to come to our hospital Reporter: Is it the hospital of Tongji University that you are easy to ask? Hospital: Yes. Reporter: I want, go you diagnose the illness, but I listen to be there some friend said like the intersection of you and that very expensive one right? Hospital: This depends on the condition, if really need some to treat the more expensive one, certainly the price will be expensive. Reporter: Generally speaking how to charge? Hospital: All standard charges. Reporter: What law that one is standard is it? The same as ordinary state-run hospital? Hospital: Yes. Reporter: Then did I hear from friend what treats after he had done one in that of yours, on more than 10,000 flowers in two days? Hospital: Which kind of therapeutic method is it to depend on. Reporter: Some people are in hospital for 15 days on more than 100,000, will price of these medicines give us a list of a detail? Hospital: Yes. Reporter: Then if we think it expensive or what medicine is used, will you discuss with us? Hospital: This is nothing to discuss, the medicine price is a medicine price, Price Bureau stipulates in unison, not fixed by us. Reporter: For example, I can not afford to want to use this medicine, will you discuss with me? Hospital: You needn't manage. Reporter: Change a cheap medicine, OK? Hospital: This depends on your condition intensity, if really needs this kind of treatment, it must be that this kind of therapeutic effect is the best. Reporter: Not to treat in that of yours with your opinion of the words that got up, right? Hospital: Yes, you can consider. But lean towards the expensive problem in the capacity of reporter on the therapeutic expenses that consumers reflect, while interviewing president Chen of the hospital of Tongji University, the answer that is got is like this. Reporter: Is it president Chen that you are easy to ask? President Chen: Hello. Reporter: Hello, this side of mine is Central People's Broadcasting Station. We this side have audience mention the intersection of you and the issue that hospital charge, I want, verify with you you think convenient? President Chen: What? I do not know this question. Reporter: It is like this, the patient reflects, similar to the ordinary hospital in that medical fee that see the doctor of yours, but it is relatively high to treat this expenses, does not know this side of yours and have any consideration in fixed price? President Chen: We make the decision according to the patient's situation. We are the private medical treatment, price by oneself. Reporter: He reflects that there is a very simple inspection to say, for example including Ultrasonography B still draws blood, it may be probably more than 400 yuan in the ordinary hospital, it checks and spends more than 3,000 to do one at your place. President Chen: That is certainly impossible, unless the patient exaggerates or conceals some and checks the project. Reporter: That is to say, is the pricing of this side of yours certain to be slightly higher than that of the ordinary hospital? President Chen: Certain to be slightly high, but can not be excessively high, we can not make a reservation on a market blindly as an enterprise, you can understand too. Reporter: The ordinary prostatitis of that treatment, how many expenses are probably cost in this side of yours? President Chen: The prostate divides the good multi-type too, take according to the patient's situation. Some patients and a course of treatment can have a good prospect, some patients take several courses of treatment, it is believed that you all find out about the condition, we can not draw a conclusion blindly. Reporter: I have consulted your attendants of the front desk too, she tells me Say this side of your should be a little more expensive, what shall we do about my family economies condition is not very good that? She says you can not choose to come here in that. Is your basic service policy like this too? President Chen: We though expensive, return, produce some identifications while being local, we can apply to help. How on earth do the expenses for medicine and treating the fee of the private hospital price? We have interviewed the relevant staff members of Beijing Municipal Health Bureau, their answer is such. Reporter: The expenses for medicine of hospital of Tongji University are not expensive, but it is very expensive to treat the expenses, for example do three simple inspections, probably spends more than 400 yuan in the ordinary hospital, but spend 3,000 yuan in the hospital of Tongji University. Staff members: This situation which you say must tell the concrete incident for example at first, we can't know till investigating. Reporter: This is a situation reflected with the hot line of the news of Central People's Broadcasting Station. Staff members: You need to take the concrete situation, we look for the relevant price department to verify. Know what project does it involve specifically, unable a rough one tell you now. Reporter: The private hospital check the pricing of the project with the public hospital are there differences? Staff members: Yes, if is a medical organization of the making profits type, needn't carry out the paying prices of the public hospital. Reporter: Can price by oneself, right? Staff members: Yes, there is pricing right by oneself, because it should pay duty according to the tax requirement. Reporter: That is to say the fixed price is high more definitely all right, but should collect taxes in corresponding proportion, is it this meaning? Staff members: It is not us, it is the revenue department. Reporter: Yes, have understood, but the country stipulate like this, right? Staff members: Yes, there are relevant requirements, reporter: I get in touch with hospital, I have not found their person in charge yet, but general staff members say, if you dislike costlily needn't come. But I want to understand, because it is a private profit property hospital, different from public hospital. You had already just now told me, according to the relevant policies and regulations, if it was the private hospital, are the ones that do not need to stipulate according to the price of public hospital right? Staff members: Eh. Expert yes: Private hospital can't ask an exorbitant price host by the look of aspect of market: Public hospital and private why price ice double days such as fire hospital? Invite economic sound commentator Bao Hua, lawyer Zhang XingYan of Beijing Chaoyang Haworth Lexon. We want, come, discuss private hospital should in problem of how to base on under market economy finally carefully now, every private hospital to have scale can expect service of it kind easily very probably, environment fine, patient little, have what of precondition these can ask an exorbitant price, ask, make China first if you, as a patient, will you choose to go to the private hospital to diagnose the illness or choose to go to the public hospital to diagnose the illness? Bao Hua: Say, I would like to choose the public hospital at first as consumer individual. Host: Why? Bao Hua: Because come to talk on one hand the transparency of the public hospital is higher, credit is better, and really the professional level is higher in a lot of diseases, I would like to choose the public hospital. But if at the time of really very difficult demand of solving me to seek medical advice of public hospital, my will supplement ing private hospital of consideration, I just regard the private hospital as supplementing. Say, I do not think the private hospital can ask an exorbitant price from my own angle, this that I said can be referred to on the aspect of morality and justice, because speaking from the angle of private hospital, it one commercialized medical organization of operation, on the intersection of market and aspect if the intersection of asked price and too high of him, the consumers will certainly without us patronize, patients do not go to a doctor to that of his, in this case he is actually a market behavior. Talk in case of market behavior, the private hospital is sure not to ask an exorbitant price, but key lie in how high it will be price, this piece we uncertain. Because we know medical care is a special service, this terms of the service depend on the therapeutic scheme, if our medical organization has told the condition accurately, have not misdiagnosed, not leaked and examined, our expenses depend on a detail of our medical scheme, these details are often level and specialized judgement which depend on our doctor, if existed and excessively checked excessive medical treatment that may be a problem of rationality, but if there are not checking and excessively medical words of problem, then may relate to doctor's level, picture say just now, some the intersection of disease and the doctor think that did not need to use the apparatus, but another one thinks that needs machinery, who has the final say? Come, say me to be really very good to judge so I think private hospital serve well and people little at present, but certainly can't ask an exorbitant price on the aspect of market, certainly this does not say that talks from aspect of morals. Host: OK, come to listen to your opinion of lawyer Zhang. Zhang XingYan: I will choose the public hospital first while seeing the doctor, because the public hospital doctor's matching has experiences to say, it may be a little better than the private hospital that I am thought. Main public hospital property of financial subsidy, so he can will fair, it must be very high that the private hospital charges, the service industry that but may be relative will be a little better, so this one mainly see patient's personal choice question. Host: The private hospital is enterprises, we heard president Chen of hospital of Tongji University talk about " we were an enterprise " in the interview too just now, we are sure not to ask an exorbitant price that enterprises should survive " ,But the implication means the high price is possible, wrap up China to ask you, how on earth does the hospital of commercialized operation come to manage? Bao Hua: It should is it commercialized to think I by hospital of operation in before there difference is several items, for example honest, this is on one hand, for example persevering and responsible, for example serve and shut the rule, for example the price shows clearly, these content actually public hospitals and private hospitals should all observe, but the yardstick or his free space degree that may be observed may be different. For example, the intersection of price and the intersection of announcement and this piece, we because public hospital enjoy national subsidy of government, so his price comes to tell one with basic medical insurance to support in this respect, it is really on the low side that his price shows some contents clearly, for example probably one of clinic of the expert of this side of our Beijing registers 14 yuan, this is very cheap, this is basically unimaginable in the private hospital. Host: 14 yuan base Originally associate professor's doctor of grade can handle your disease. Bao Hua: It is expert grade, then the public and private hospital of these four principles is the same under this kind of situation, but the intersection of price and the intersection of announcement and this piece, you 14-140 on earth in announcement, that can relevant in property of organization with you perhaps, so this come, can't say we taking pricing high low to come, appraise how about it will be hospital simple together, but make a reservation to confirm according to the social attribute of different hospital organizations. Host: Listen to the intersection of lawyer and feeling of you Zhang again, you think commercialized hospital of operation, mean the private hospital on us, because he is an enterprise, he should earn money to runs a very important purpose of this hospital, should finally he then how about go, deal in is there one's own one seat in this society? Zhang XingYan: Having in fact wrapped up China and already mentioned a lot of just now, he enumerated all questions, in fact the most important one want promisingly, there is development as an enterprise, as hospital being the same too, it is very key to be honest, that is to say hospital a possible one whether price show clearly actually, certainly the actually showing clearly in the private hospital now of a lot of, but his price is determined by the fact that the price decided by market demand between he and patient comes, instead of the government guided price, he and difference of the public hospital actually lie in a disparity of the price, certainly if the service of the private hospital can get caught up in, I believe economic the intersection of terms and fine person like, choose the fine serving kind private hospitalling, going, seeking medical advice environment. Host: We see at present everybody is as everyone knows that patients are numerous in the situation faced in the public hospital, the doctor's pressure is very large, tired every day to rush about there in the clinic and in hospital back and forth and solve the patient's demand, and private the intersection of hospital and this piece we say high price very obvious again because of of fine quality high price, then in such a huge medical market, how does the private hospital just get a cup of custard? Do you think what one of the most important points is, Bao Hua? Expert yes: The private hospital wants to it takes to divide the custard at first and serve the colony and wrap up China clearly: I think one of the most important points whether the private hospital should confirm the crowd that content direct against of service that he manage, since he is an enterprise, when you provide medical service product for the public of the society, do you want to define who your serivce object is? If our serivce object is a few individual rich men, of several a million of personal value, these rich men of up to ten million, then it should be all right that you call and pay the sky-high price, but if the target that you direct against is the ordinary masses, can't enjoy such a the same service in the public hospital, but regard private hospital as under the situation of the substitution, his price can't ask an exorbitant price, this is totally a operation operation of an enterprise. But come back, the words wanting a part in our huge medical market, should we know at first which custard of cup is divided? Whose a cup of custard do we divide? Host: Please further explain to us again, whose a cup of custard was that was divided on earth? Bao Hua: I think economic condition is relatively more superior when the private hospital should divide those at first, do not need the medical demands of some such colonies that ensure through public medical treatment, the personnel of these come to explain satisfaction medical care that he does not need to correspond to by medical insurance that the society offered, his own business operation conditions can be supported, then these people may be patients or customers of first group of the private hospital of our. But under come it if you can't it is private hospital say, in this respect can support by at software, hardware personnel, can face more public consumers, in this case he can substitute some such functions of the public hospital of ours, can do some work, but because the prices of a series of private hospital of reason of expenses of taxation,etc. may be higher than our public hospital, so long as we can accept, can divide, go, think this by two level while being ordinary. Host: I want to listen to your opinion, lawyer Zhang, how the private hospital gets the question of a cup of custard on the huge market. Private hospital to have two roads actually now, first road to the advanced medical organization route moves, say, serve rich man with the intersection of bag and the intersection of China and just now, offer some service and help possibly until ordinary people live on one hand in addition. Then the country actually regards private hospital as a supplementary and auxiliary function of the public hospital on the policy, hope to help the public hospital to solve the problem that doctors and patients existed at present are numerous. Is it based on one's own heel that how could then it is on this huge medical market that you think the private hospital? Lawyer yes: The private hospital should offer good service Zhang XingYan for masses: The in fact most key one is still the starting point, what kind of aspect he orients oneself on, whether that is to say he has faced the masses on earth in such private hospital, or just face those advanced customers who Bao Hua said, certainly if if then his preparability is very small in the advanced customer, the words making profits because there are very many private hospitals now, may compete fiercer, if can face the masses, offer the high-quality service again and can also lighten certain social pressure and social public service for us at the same time, then I think he can have a foothold and may achieve better result in this respect. Host: Then it is should high-quality service which doesn't mix frightful for price or reasonable service last reasonable price, where is the space making profits to private hospital? Does Bao Hua think? Bao Hua: If say, the private hospital must guarantee a high-quality service as ordinary masses, it is a reasonable price at the same time, if our reasonable service, reasonable price are matched like this, that can not meet the ordinary public demand, the private hospital should try every means to accomplish the high-quality service, reasonable price, just will be helpful to our ordinary masses like this. This piece public hospital of us compare with but the speech one all certainly, I want to say the first respect that these are. What I want to say is until long-term development put, help public hospital or remedy public hospital to be insufficient to come on, say in this respect in the future private hospital it will be second respect, it can not be a frightful price certainly, because the colony of his consumption will change essentially. Certainly the private hospital can actually pass a high-quality service on one hand from in addition, the reasonable price expands its popularity, strengthen a public praise of its speciality while capturing market, say that there is not any repayment for he from this meaning, in fact the result is forward too. Host: I understand meaning of you should but person who walk should move price. Bao Hua: As many as possible the intersection of offering and service of him in with controllable cost cases, may private the intersection of hospital and a long-term policy for long-term, because rich men are the minority after all in fact, more consuming groups are us the masses of masses. Host: But say I think generally speaking the private hospital expensive and valued for treating on the expenses from my own experience, for example use of the apparatus, have it on expenses attended to, what methods can reduce this expenses? Expert yes: Private hospital reduce fee, can start with managing Bao Hua government's tax allowance in one's own sincerity: Think I respect since two piece go hard,first respect hospitals private is don't getting more excessive because of one's own operation make a diagnosis, inspections excessive, these not only injure the patient's interests but also damage the whole sincere system at the same time, this will come to say that should not be only contained by oneself by the private hospital, will pass our patients' supervision too, these are the first respect. In addition come on one hand and say the government should provide the policy of more favours for private hospital, we heard just now in the recording, the personnel of the government were also saying the private hospital wanted to pay taxes, since the private hospital should pay taxes, then this tax should be shifted to our consumers finally, then say on the angle of expenses of taxation whether the government can offer such a expenses of taxation of the relative comparative advantage, because we know public the intersection of hospital and this item, such being the case, private the intersection of organization and the intersection of price and this yuan can be basically ensured. Host: In other words lighten restrictions on the private hospital and derate. Bao Hua: Yes, but will strengthen and serve one's own control to the private hospital at the same time. Host: How to control? What methods are there? Bao Hua: I think this question may be more professional, consider the medical their opinion of responsible institution of the hygiene of this side of ours. Host: Others say the intersection of doctor and the intersection of benevolence and heart, doctor should most kind person in the world, the person who has the mercy heart most, then where should doctor's benevolence heart put? We hear the intersection of Tongji University and the intersection of consultant and telling me if you dislike expensiveness you can needn't come on very clear of hospital of us under recording just now, what the president told me is that the price of this side of ours is a little expensive, but I did public service, if you come holding relevant identification we can consider reducing or remitting for you, the the intersection of expenses and we with what kind of attitude it treats those to be no very much rich people then, to hospital, to doctor? Bao Hua: In fact this question should be mentioned to the public hospital at first, certainly our theme is not to mention the thing of public hospital today, we are in terms of private hospital, I think I say from angle helping meet an urgent need at first, must patient previous, but not price previous, say from the individual or organization or organization of society, should all be considered out of cultural and educational spirit on the angle helping meet an urgent need, but not it is the private hospital to say you, you needn't consider this. But say on the poor angle from rescuing, the private hospital does not really have a legal duty, private hospital can say he have a heart but no strength, until some of ours for example charity organization on one hand in addition in this case, some of ours donates this, should contribute to some extent in this respect, can let the poor get a basic medical guarantee under this kind of situation, I think these two points can be said separately in this. In addition I want to emphasize one point, if our his service of private hospital can accept the public and even supervision on the responsible institution, the responsible institution can provide of a better management environment for him, a benefited one should be the public of us, so we are from the public, speaking from the consumer personal angle, I really hope in private hospital and government and all take one steps more forward. Host: Everybody puts doctor's benevolence heart on primary position, more one is consider more for consumersed, offer better services to them. Bao Hua: Actually regarding the patient's interests as the major premise, the personnel of mechanism of obtaining employment keep one's own conscience, our government lets some such with conscience obtain employment in organization and personnel, can continue storing going down continuously, develop the space of professional medical care. Host: In fact nothing more than public hospital of this question belongs to the private hospital, so long as you are a medical personnel, so long as you are a doctor, you should put doctor's benevolence heart on the most important position. We discuss the last topic, do you think to consumer how to think about and choose the private hospital? Zhang XingYan: I think consumer need reason consume already at this time, may not be certain too private hospital charge high service will certainly well, but can't prove either the high service of charge of the private hospital must ask an exorbitant price well, this does not complement each other, I think this price of his must put in that in earlier stage on his market too, because popular just there are corresponding prices. Host: We interviewed in the middle president Chen talked about us too just now, we were an enterprise, it is to want the high price that we can not be in all desperation, in this way our enterprises are unable to survive. Zhang XingYan: It is the first prerequisite that he wants to survive, so he wants to consider the questions of consumers' consuming capacity and acceptance, so I am thought consumers he so long as capable he can accept, then he goes to consume, if he can not accept I advise him to choose the public hospital. Host: Your opinion of Bao Hua? Expert yes: Recommend the masses of consumer's first-selected public hospital Bao Huas: I think the patients of the masses of consumers choose the public hospital at first, the patient chooses the public hospital, because the public hospital is more secure, and medical care is not a pure consumer behavior, there are specialized contents in inside, our consumers or our patients can not all understand, so sincerity degree and behavior in the past such a professional level of his of the hospital are very important. If choosing my own opinion of private hospital should carry on an abundant investigation to the private hospital first, including the content which he serves, the standard of the service, including the public praise in price and trade which he embodies, so my own suggestion should also choose the public hospital in advance for the public. Host: We referred to inside the program too just now proposing one and waking up for everybody, we are directors of the urological department of a public hospital of special consultation for this question, he give us one very fine suggestion, that is to say every There is a very important volume in fact in family's hospital, this is that one that Chinese Health Ministry issues in unison is named making a diagnosis the manual, enumerate in detail very much at the the manual then for example which disease, which steps should be adopted, probably some such steps go to make a diagnosis, this one actually have guidance function on doctor, had guidance function to discuss the question that a little too with the doctor to go some time ago as to our disease patient, you can know probably how much oneself cost to hold this volume, can be regarded as out, then this instructs the manual to be the same to public hospital and private hospital, we remind our disease patient, our consumers, our friends that go to the hospital to see the doctor of need too, you, with the doctor, nurse, the nursing staff might as well consult one on this question, then they can borrow such a manual for you, such a route with all strength of giving and offering one to safeguard oneself like this, what do lawyer Zhang think of this? Zhang XingYan: I think the very kind method, one manual, let patient accomplish, know what's what in fact especially, then go to consume, it is better like this. Host: OK, we thank two commentators' comment very much, thank you very much, good-bye. We hope in no matter the public hospital or private hospital too, can all provide the best service for our disease patient, let our disease patient can experience the warmth on soul outside pain which stands the body.


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